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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Anonymous</title>
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		<description>Your blog keeps getting better and better! Your older articles are not as good as newer ones you have a lot more creativity and originality now keep it up!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 09:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super-Duper site! I am loving it!! Will come back again - taking you feeds also, Thanks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Jerry A Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry A Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 18:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a former LEO I have no problem with the stop and the actions of the officer. I have been stopped at night and extended every courtesy to the officer and I was armed and in uniform. It it a matter of procedure for the officer.&lt;br /&gt;    The problem I have is the attitude and ignorance of the Constitution that the Mayor has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former LEO I have no problem with the stop and the actions of the officer. I have been stopped at night and extended every courtesy to the officer and I was armed and in uniform. It it a matter of procedure for the officer.<br />    The problem I have is the attitude and ignorance of the Constitution that the Mayor has.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:29:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The powers of arrest of a [private citizen and a peace officer are almost identical.&lt;br /&gt;Perhaps the biggest diffrence being there are no non disclosure syatutes fro a private citizen.&lt;br /&gt;That said Glover is showing himself to be as inept and incompitent as is believable.&lt;br /&gt;A common occurance in government these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The powers of arrest of a [private citizen and a peace officer are almost identical.<br />Perhaps the biggest diffrence being there are no non disclosure syatutes fro a private citizen.<br />That said Glover is showing himself to be as inept and incompitent as is believable.<br />A common occurance in government these days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the power of citizens arrest are almost identical to the power of peace officers. &lt;br /&gt;the most notable difference is private citizens are not bound by disclosure statutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the power of citizens arrest are almost identical to the power of peace officers. <br />the most notable difference is private citizens are not bound by disclosure statutes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The power of arrest is nearly identical between officers and citizens. A citizens arrest may have more power as a private citizen does not have disclosure statutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The power of arrest is nearly identical between officers and citizens. A citizens arrest may have more power as a private citizen does not have disclosure statutes.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Rex Moncrief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Moncrief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>-------------&lt;br /&gt;We need to pick and choose these battles. &lt;br /&gt;-------------&lt;br /&gt;Sounds like the same rhetoric as a previous post - most likely you are the same person.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;---------------&lt;br /&gt;If Mr. Balioo thinks his stickers are the reason for his stop, he has the option to remove them, or he can deal with the response that comes with advertising his views.&lt;br /&gt;----------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;There is that little thing called &quot;freedom of speech&quot; which means that you, as a citizen, can express your views, but public officials cannot harass you or punish you for those views. The only exceptions are the &quot;yelling fire in a theater&quot; scenarios for public disturbances.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------&lt;br /&gt;Mr. Balioo&lt;br /&gt;------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Funny how that same incorrect spelling is used each time on your posts. Your refusal to use correct names detracts from your point and removes credibility.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;----------------&lt;br /&gt;It didn&#039;t help that he was unavailable to defend his views when the news station called him, he must have been busy picking Chinese food.&lt;br /&gt;----------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nice try, but neither KTBS 3 nor KSLA 12 tried to contact Robert (nor me for that matter). He is an easy person to find in the phone book and at his business.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Tom Gresham, Moon Griffon, and others have had no trouble contacting Robert. Neither did Cedric Glover himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />We need to pick and choose these battles. <br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />Sounds like the same rhetoric as a previous post &#8211; most likely you are the same person.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />If Mr. Balioo thinks his stickers are the reason for his stop, he has the option to remove them, or he can deal with the response that comes with advertising his views.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>There is that little thing called &quot;freedom of speech&quot; which means that you, as a citizen, can express your views, but public officials cannot harass you or punish you for those views. The only exceptions are the &quot;yelling fire in a theater&quot; scenarios for public disturbances.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />Mr. Balioo<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>Funny how that same incorrect spelling is used each time on your posts. Your refusal to use correct names detracts from your point and removes credibility.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />It didn&#39;t help that he was unavailable to defend his views when the news station called him, he must have been busy picking Chinese food.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Nice try, but neither KTBS 3 nor KSLA 12 tried to contact Robert (nor me for that matter). He is an easy person to find in the phone book and at his business.</p>
<p>Tom Gresham, Moon Griffon, and others have had no trouble contacting Robert. Neither did Cedric Glover himself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.conservativedrink.com/2009/06/15/our-rights-are-suspended-by-mayor-cedric-glover/comment-page-1/#comment-28</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 11:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Profiling?! Give me a break! Had the officer mistreated, arrested, or disrespected Mr. Balioo in any way I could buy that argument. The officer even escorted him to the restaurant! I&#039;m with the police on this one. Regardless of what the mayor said or says, the same thing should happen to anyone pulled over with a weapon in the car. I support the right to own and bear arms, but this is just smoke and noise. We need to pick and choose these battles. If Mr. Balioo thinks his stickers are the reason for his stop, he has the option to remove them, or he can deal with the response that comes with advertising his views. It didn&#039;t help that he was unavailable to defend his views when the news station called him, he must have been busy picking Chinese food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Profiling?! Give me a break! Had the officer mistreated, arrested, or disrespected Mr. Balioo in any way I could buy that argument. The officer even escorted him to the restaurant! I&#39;m with the police on this one. Regardless of what the mayor said or says, the same thing should happen to anyone pulled over with a weapon in the car. I support the right to own and bear arms, but this is just smoke and noise. We need to pick and choose these battles. If Mr. Balioo thinks his stickers are the reason for his stop, he has the option to remove them, or he can deal with the response that comes with advertising his views. It didn&#39;t help that he was unavailable to defend his views when the news station called him, he must have been busy picking Chinese food.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Our Rights are Suspended by Mayor Cedric Glover by Denise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Denise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 05:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked Louisiana officers who are friends and relatives, their opinion on the matter. Yes, the officer did what he should have and the following comment explains exactly what and why. And the mayor is the one who misspoke and will probably regret it.: As I read the story, I must tell you that I look upon it as a police officer.  It is our practice, our training and supported by the US Supreme Court that a police officer may search those areas under immediate control of any occupants within a motor vehicle.  In the case of a firearm, it is again our practice and our training (here in St. Tammany) to take TEMPORARY possession of that firearm during the course of the traffic stop.  It is during these initial first few moments that the police officer has no idea if the citizen is just a citizen or an escaped convict.  We take TEMPORARY possession of that firearm to protect ourselves.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Now, that being said, it is our further practice to request a perfunctory criminal history check based upon the picture ID presented by the citizen AND a stolen records check on the serial number of the firearm.  Once those two things have come back with no red flags, the tension eases somewhat.  We conduct our business, whether it be a verbal warning for whatever the traffic infraction was or a citation for that infraction.  We then replace the weapon inside the vehicle (unloaded) and conclude our business.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I do believe that the Mayor of Shreveport badly misspoke.  There is NEVER a suspension of rights, no matter how temporary and the Mayor is going to take some more heat over that.  It is only during the temporary detention of a citizen and initial investigation that we may remove weapons from the immediate area.  We do not confiscate them, as that implies taking permanent possession.  I have confiscated weapons from citizens during traffic stops but only after that citizen has been arrested.  I have not seized the weapon unless it was involved in a crime or was a stolen weapon.  In the confiscation, the weapon is removed, tagged and identified and placed in property for return to the owner.  In the event it is seized, it is placed into evidence and not released until after the trial or the charges have been dropped.  In the event an owner cannot be identified, the weapon is destroyed.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;Here in the South, there are many more firearms around than there are in other areas of our nation.  We as police officers have to tread a very fine line and do our utmost not to violate the rights of citizens including the right to keep and bear arms.  The writer of the story, Mr. Baillio, used what I believe to be an incorrect term when he stated the police officer &#039;confiscated&#039; his weapon.  I do not consider that a &#039;confiscation&#039;, but rather taking TEMPORARY possession of a firearm during an as yet unknown type of citizen encounter.  Baillio stated the firearm was returned to him after the completion of the traffic stop, so in my mind, it was not &#039;confiscated&#039;.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;As far as advising a police officer that you have a firearm??  An emphatic YES is my answer.  If you are a law abiding citizen and your firearm is legally in your possession, you have no issue whatsoever. ALWAYS tell a police officer you have a weapon inside your vehicle...as I described in the procedure above, you will have it returned to you before you leave the location.&lt;br /&gt; &lt;br /&gt;I hope this somewhat answered your question.  You are a law abiding citizen and you own a legal firearm...the police in Louisiana may not confiscate it unless it is involved in a crime or you have been arrested and the firearm needs to be secured.  Have no worries...you are a citizen, not a criminal....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked Louisiana officers who are friends and relatives, their opinion on the matter. Yes, the officer did what he should have and the following comment explains exactly what and why. And the mayor is the one who misspoke and will probably regret it.: As I read the story, I must tell you that I look upon it as a police officer.  It is our practice, our training and supported by the US Supreme Court that a police officer may search those areas under immediate control of any occupants within a motor vehicle.  In the case of a firearm, it is again our practice and our training (here in St. Tammany) to take TEMPORARY possession of that firearm during the course of the traffic stop.  It is during these initial first few moments that the police officer has no idea if the citizen is just a citizen or an escaped convict.  We take TEMPORARY possession of that firearm to protect ourselves.</p>
<p>Now, that being said, it is our further practice to request a perfunctory criminal history check based upon the picture ID presented by the citizen AND a stolen records check on the serial number of the firearm.  Once those two things have come back with no red flags, the tension eases somewhat.  We conduct our business, whether it be a verbal warning for whatever the traffic infraction was or a citation for that infraction.  We then replace the weapon inside the vehicle (unloaded) and conclude our business.</p>
<p>I do believe that the Mayor of Shreveport badly misspoke.  There is NEVER a suspension of rights, no matter how temporary and the Mayor is going to take some more heat over that.  It is only during the temporary detention of a citizen and initial investigation that we may remove weapons from the immediate area.  We do not confiscate them, as that implies taking permanent possession.  I have confiscated weapons from citizens during traffic stops but only after that citizen has been arrested.  I have not seized the weapon unless it was involved in a crime or was a stolen weapon.  In the confiscation, the weapon is removed, tagged and identified and placed in property for return to the owner.  In the event it is seized, it is placed into evidence and not released until after the trial or the charges have been dropped.  In the event an owner cannot be identified, the weapon is destroyed.</p>
<p>Here in the South, there are many more firearms around than there are in other areas of our nation.  We as police officers have to tread a very fine line and do our utmost not to violate the rights of citizens including the right to keep and bear arms.  The writer of the story, Mr. Baillio, used what I believe to be an incorrect term when he stated the police officer &#39;confiscated&#39; his weapon.  I do not consider that a &#39;confiscation&#39;, but rather taking TEMPORARY possession of a firearm during an as yet unknown type of citizen encounter.  Baillio stated the firearm was returned to him after the completion of the traffic stop, so in my mind, it was not &#39;confiscated&#39;.</p>
<p>As far as advising a police officer that you have a firearm??  An emphatic YES is my answer.  If you are a law abiding citizen and your firearm is legally in your possession, you have no issue whatsoever. ALWAYS tell a police officer you have a weapon inside your vehicle&#8230;as I described in the procedure above, you will have it returned to you before you leave the location.</p>
<p>I hope this somewhat answered your question.  You are a law abiding citizen and you own a legal firearm&#8230;the police in Louisiana may not confiscate it unless it is involved in a crime or you have been arrested and the firearm needs to be secured.  Have no worries&#8230;you are a citizen, not a criminal&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cedric Glover Controversy &#8211; NRA Bumper Stickers by Rex Moncrief</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rex Moncrief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 14:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>--------&lt;br /&gt;stop attempting an exploit of the Officer and the Mayor.&lt;br /&gt;--------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;How can you exploit someone with something that is public record anyway? Also, Glove was stupid enough to make virtually the same argument to several other people - including KTBS and KSLA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;------------&lt;br /&gt;harm to our cause in regards to preservation of the 2nd amendment.&lt;br /&gt;------------&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;As stated repeatedly, take off the blinders and pay attention to Glover&#039;s comments. They are the issue. It would actually be the &lt;b&gt;4th Amendment&lt;/b&gt; that is under attack here.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Also, there are a few statements in that little thing called the &quot;Declaration of Independence&quot; that are called into play here. In case you need a refresher:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;i&gt;That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Change or dissolution in this case would be Glover&#039;s removal in 2010 at the next mayor election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />stop attempting an exploit of the Officer and the Mayor.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>How can you exploit someone with something that is public record anyway? Also, Glove was stupid enough to make virtually the same argument to several other people &#8211; including KTBS and KSLA.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />harm to our cause in regards to preservation of the 2nd amendment.<br />&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;</p>
<p>As stated repeatedly, take off the blinders and pay attention to Glover&#39;s comments. They are the issue. It would actually be the <b>4th Amendment</b> that is under attack here.</p>
<p>Also, there are a few statements in that little thing called the &quot;Declaration of Independence&quot; that are called into play here. In case you need a refresher:</p>
<p><i>That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.</i></p>
<p>Change or dissolution in this case would be Glover&#39;s removal in 2010 at the next mayor election.</p>
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